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04/12/2022

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ajkreider

Please pardon the naivete of the question, but I'm a bit lost. Doesn't there have to be some underlying, presupposed, or unstated normative "theoretical" position that supports something's having "detrimental" effects on the disabled, including disabled philosophers? How does one even make sense of the "risk" involved, absent such a foundation?

ERIC SCHLIESSER

Sure. What's the problem?

ajkreider

That she hasn't really avoided contamination of normative theory, whether it is formalized or not. If Tremain really is brutally honest with herself (I haven't read the book), that would include stating her normative commitments - and perhaps rationally reconstructing a theory about them.

Maybe that's just your point, but it seems odd to laud a failure to do this as prudential. Clearly, she thinks she's providing insights that show weakness in the prevailing views - that those aren't the best (not sure why you have scare quotes there). Ok, bring that to the fore.

ajkreider

That she hasn't really avoided contamination of normative theory, whether it is formalized or not. If Tremain really is brutally honest with herself (I haven't read the book), that would include stating her normative commitments - and perhaps rationally reconstructing a theory about them.

Maybe that's just your point, but it seems odd to laud a failure to do this as prudential. Clearly, she thinks she's providing insights that show weakness in the prevailing views - that those aren't the best (not sure why you have scare quotes there). Ok, bring that to the fore.

ERIC SCHLIESSER

You conflate two things: (i) one is a first order normative theory in bio-ethics--she is not offering that as far as I can tell. (ii) She is making a normative claim about normative theory of bio-ethics (and a whole range of disciplinary practcies)--that it has bad consequences. You can do (ii) without doing (i) without contradiction or bad faith. (You could even do (ii) as a reductio of (i), but that's not what she is doing.)

ERIC SCHLIESSER

I think I see what may be confusing you. You read me as suggesting that Tremain is a critic of normative theorizing as such. But she is not a normative skeptic (she is a relativist). And her criticism of the disciplinary practice is ethical in character (without engaging in the disciplinary practice itself).

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