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John Protevi

Hi Eric, this is a lovely post. I have two quibbles.

1) I wouldn't want to equate (or even bring into close proximity) Deleuze's concept of "life" and the phenomenological concept of "lived experience." Here's a post at NA that sketches out how Maimon's insistence on the genesis of real experience figures into DR. http://www.newappsblog.com/2012/02/gutting-on-deleuze.html

2) Life as the object of "affirmation" is not purely positive (in the sense of a plenum); rather, it proceeds by pushing the boundaries and experimenting with novelties, and that happens by negotiation with an environment (the "line of flight"). What "mutilates" life is I think the prohibition on experimentation. So critique of that wouldn't I think constitute "collateral damage"; it would be getting rid of the damage already being done.
Of course, (by the time of ATP, as opposed to the more wild-eyed AO) "experimentation" has to be sober and delicate, like a surgeon's cut! ATP161E

Eric Schliesser

On (1), above I use 'lived experience' equivocally between the ordinary and the phenomenological.
on (2), I don't think we disagree. On my views on directed experiment, see this post at NewAPPS: http://www.newappsblog.com/2012/01/the-secret-cord-bewteen-adam-smith-and-thoreau.html

Ruth Groff

You mean like Plato makes the character of Socrates say in, like, every single dialogue?! But especially, of course, in the Phaedrus. And the Republic. I'm assuming that the "Yes, just like that" is implied. Still, I feel compelled to say it. "Hands that try to chalk the sun" is about as good a description of Plato's own account of his dialogues - including why they are written as they are - as it gets. For which thank you. It's a beautiful post.

M. Suárez

Have you taken a look at Paul Feyerabend's last writings? He has a very similar view regarding abstractions. Always be very careful and always remember your concepts - including philosophical ones - are not perfectly made to fit, but are rather imperfect tools. And below, there really is a very variegated life. His optimism, like Mill's, is infectious.

Funny to read this now - I've been down with the heaviness of existence recently and seeing a few doctors (not surgeons fortunately) and so reflecting a little bit myself about medical practice v philosophy v life …

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